Weapon tier list 2.0

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  • Ic0n0clastIc0n0clast
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    edited April 2
    Andu wrote: »
    Sorry but I dont agree to the 70% of your list. SEO - MPX, MG36 at A really? PP2200 in B? I would put with P90 to A, PP-2200 >Seo-MPX (check on shooting range and you will see)
    USS-12 in B? too high I would put it in C, Evo, and C26A should be in B..... Well I dont have time to roll over your list, but thats your list - not just universal list. You feel that weapons are better, but theire not.
    Why AK is so low ...? ICS>USS-13

    Where are the Snipers?

    I'm not going to go into the other parts of the list but as far as snipers go, they are for the most part just sidegrades and aesthetic choices. 90% of them can OHKO enemies and the only real difference is how far away you can reliable do this.
  • Wolfhound25Wolfhound25
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    edited April 2
    I was running some excel calculations on approximate dps and rough damage comparisons assuming linear fire rate scaling, and your ratings seem spot on to be honest. Myonly question is, why is the K22 as high as it is(its damage seems to be really quite low), and why isn't the S25-R in here. It has a pretty good damage compared to everything else, roughly above the Seburo C-30 and right below the KHX-160(which is just below the F2020 and the F-mas G1
  • VeldrinVeldrin
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    edited April 3
    I don't second this list:

    My list would be:

    X-List (extremely ridiculous easy to kill without any effort)

    – F2020 (only downsize, the hipfire is not as good as other X-list guns)
    – KHX (upgraded Seburo C30, hipfire is even more crazy acurate as Seburo C30 or even M4A1)
    – Seburo C30
    – F-Mas (strongest weapon at close range)

    A-List (very good, slightly OP)

    – K22
    – AK
    – S25R
    – the new SMG (it is a heavily upgraded UMP +10 on fire rate)
    – Deathstalker, P90, P2000 (maybe i did not pick it up enough)

    B-list (good and balanced, but too weak to compete against X-list weapons)
    all what is not on X, A or C – for example M4A1, MP5, KH417,…

    C-List (a little bit underpowered, too weak to compete against A-list and X-list weapons)
    – ACR
    – UMP


    sniper rifles, machine guns and shotguns are out of the list. i dont play with them enough to rate it.

    and for the pistols:
    1. Burst pistol (can compete against many normal guns, which is ridiculous)
    2. normal pistols (fair balanced)
    3. revolvers (slightly underpowered, either accuracy or speed)


    my list is fully subjective and based up on my own experiences with this guns (1k+ hours playtime and i own almost all guns except f2020 for example but it is very easy to pick it up since it is used so heavily)

    Nexon will never balance the guns. THat was clear when they released the KHX.
  • AnduAndu
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    edited April 4
    Every sniper is different, dont treat snipers as a crap. There are better snipers in dmg stats and worse, stable and harder to handle, OHK and non-OHK
    Thats not only aesthetic thing.

    In my opinion CM or new SR(not that semi auto, cant recall its name) is the best sniper in the game because of dmg or handling.
  • iterationiteration
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    edited April 16
    Putting all CC weapons in lower tiers just means you are not skilled enough to use them, which places all your tierlist under a serious doubt. . Wielding mostly MP5-S3 gives me 1.49 k/d on average. It's about tactics, not about stats.
  • CycatrixCycatrix
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    edited April 17
    I think you underestimate the AK. I personally dont like it but its high damage and optimal range means it can also kill on medium range with just 3 shots and in optimal range with 3 shots even if you get a limb shot. This makes the 3 shot kill range far beyond other ARs. Yes it has lower ROF than the K22 but the range and damage make it quite a different beast.

    Of the shotguns I find the USS12 to be good but its ammo consumption and tiny magazine size mean you often find yourself reloading when you really dont have the safety for it. And due the fact its damage is a lot lower than the other shotguns it cannot easily kill someone with one blast. The ICS meanwhile can very reliably kill someone with one shot on a pretty good range (for a shotgun that is). Sure you have a low rate of fire, but that doesn't matter if someone died with your first shot. The other shotgun meanwhile is not that good. Its damage is a bit lower meaning you often dont kill someone in one shot, but leave them at 5 hp. It has better range but the raw damage of the ICS makes it better anyway.
    Veldrin
  • Telésforo441Telésforo441
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    edited April 22
    I was running some excel calculations on approximate dps and rough damage comparisons assuming linear fire rate scaling, and your ratings seem spot on to be honest. Myonly question is, why is the K22 as high as it is(its damage seems to be really quite low), and why isn't the S25-R in here. It has a pretty good damage compared to everything else, roughly above the Seburo C-30 and right below the KHX-160(which is just below the F2020 and the F-mas G1

    Since I do not have all the weapons, they are not all.

    My idea is to try each one in detail. I have prioritized some but be careful that the list will cover all weapons .
  • Telésforo441Telésforo441
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    edited April 22
    iteration wrote: »
    Putting all CC weapons in lower tiers just means you are not skilled enough to use them, which places all your tierlist under a serious doubt. . Wielding mostly MP5-S3 gives me 1.49 k/d on average. It's about tactics, not about stats.

    It is a list of weapons, not weapons plus player skill. Ridiculously, in all shooters, weapons with a high firing rate always are OPs.
    If I had read everything maybe I would know that I am making the list based on "all" possible situations in which you will be. I'm not saying that "X" gun is garbage or that "Y" gun is the perfect weapon. It will depend on the player, his PC, mouse, keyboard, internet etc ...

    There are a lot of variables that make any list false. It's just a guide.

    In particular I prefer sniper and SMG (if that was your doubt).
  • Darkwolf3802Darkwolf3802
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    edited April 26
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    As THE orig shottie abuser in this game and someone whose mastered the art of shotties I would highly suggest you put on the quick point S2 sight and the range-cbc1. The sight gives you just enough zoom to make longer distance shots possible and the cbc1 gives that added damage at optimal range to make up for the devs lack of shottie balancing in this game. While it would still be UP nowadays in the game its still got that 2 shot ability (and hope the server doesnt shaft u on the hitreg) My KDR also speaks for itself.

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